PDA

View Full Version : This Years Flu Vaccine Ineffective:Three Changes Flanking the Receptor binding domain are not in the Current H1N1 Brisbane/59 Vaccine



cHeroKee
01-13-2009, 06:56 PM
Flu Outbreak at Texas High School Raises Concerns

January 13, 2009


Taylor High School had 168 students calling in sick today ? that's 18 percent of the student body. Twenty percent of the staff are out, too.

The above comments describe an influenza like illness at a high school in central Texas that is likely to be Tamiflu resistant H1N1. All influenza sub-typed to date in Texas has been H1N1. Moreover sequences from H1N1 isolates in Texas match H1N1 in Sendai, Japan where the virus forced the closing of 10 elementary schools. Similarly, Tamiflu resistant H1N1 caused school closings in another prefecture.

Moreover, South Korea is reporting an explosion of H1N1 cases, and 16/17 tested H1N1 isolates have H274Y. The frequency of illness continues to grow in Korea and is already nearly double the rate of the peak week last season.

In the United States the flu season is just beginning to grow, and most of the flu in the United States is H1N1. The school closings in Japan, coupled with the explosion of cases In Korea and the above high school raise concerns because the H1N1 is Tamiflu resistant and the three changes flanking the receptor binding domain are not in the current H1N1 Brisbane/59 vaccine..

signseeker
01-13-2009, 07:22 PM
When they say "current" vaccine, be aware that WHO determines the ingredients in February for the following flu season to allow for production. We are always essentially 2 years behind.

H1N1 is the strain of 1918 fame.

cHeroKee
01-13-2009, 07:46 PM
We are essentially 1 year out in vaccine making because Flu season in the Western world typically occurs in winter, flu season in Asia generally is the rainy season. Because of the wide geographic variations in the region, there is generally a rainy season somewhere, allowing the viruses to propagate continuously or mutate.
The picking of viruses are carried out a year prior to shot delivery due to the regular occurrence of mutations. The problem is that the flu virus mutates rapidly, particularly the gene for a surface protein called hemagglutinin that plays a key role in interacting with the human immune system.
If your information of 2 years out is officially from WHO, someone does not understand the propagation of viruses, especially strains of H1N1 nature. Projecting back from 2 year old viral data is disastrous.

signseeker
01-13-2009, 07:53 PM
I just read the "February" part on the WHO website. I figured since Feb. is basically still in the middle of flu season... they couldn't have complete data from that current season at that time.

I think the flu vaccine is somewhat of a disaster in itself.

cHeroKee
01-13-2009, 09:27 PM
The key is the rainy season and winter season are happening at the same time. Basically two different hemispheres. Simultaneously, incubation and mutation are happening in the rainy season and we are getting their viruses they started 6 months ago. Hope this makes sense? They are in summer right now we in winter.

signseeker
01-13-2009, 09:48 PM
Yeah... I wonder if we should have more health org's doing vaccines... "regional" instead of "world" ??

sparrow
01-16-2009, 04:43 PM
Everytime I see the title Brisbane flu ...erk..... it certainly didn't get all that much coverage...great not having regional solutions... seeing they've gen-mapped it it may make next years vaccine. Great to also know that we're guaranteed to get something here before it ever makes a vaccine and that it will have to infect half the world and there again before a care factor kicks in...yep they had 7 months to think about it.

Interesting sidenote: they've just added chlorine to our water supply for the first time ever (Dec/Jan Summer). Problem is the rain is stirring up all the sediment from our once empty dams and we're getting dusty...?...water.

Even more interesting is that last year apparently there was a cover up when hospital wastes were accidently leaked into the recyled water supply (July/mid-winter). The recycled water system was 85% completed by August so obviously was getting a workout well before then. Killer flu reported Aug 10th http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,22218654-952,00.html?from=public_rss but began around January to muster. Perhaps this should go in the tin foil hat forum LOL. http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,27574,24919887-3102,00.html
So exactly what happens to recyled water after it's recycled...it gets reused by industry and then ends up in the water supply eventually I deduce via groundwater /or runoff.

We have the capacity to drink it if we get dire straight from recyled...if we get down to our last drop of water mayhap. We were supposed to this December but they decided not to have us drink recyled water. Funny that.

And for total amusement factor we have a population of two headed fish in our rivers. Pesticide spray...they say. January.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/01/15/contaminated-australian-river-spawns-millions-of-two-headed-fish/


Good grief...recyled water and the Brisbane flu....figures.