What FS the Church will send to you

[Charsee]

On LDS.org there is a prominent display for the food storage you can buy from the church and have sent to your home. If you haven't seen it yet here is the link...

http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10151&categoryId=10002&langId=-1&cg1=14087&cg2=&cg3=&cg4=&cg5

Here are the prices if you can it yourself...

http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10151&productId=11151&langId=-1&cg1=14087&cg2=10002&cg3=&cg4=&cg5=&sortId=1&sortOr=1&retURLtext=Back%20to%20'Home%20Storage'&retURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ldscatalog.com%2Fwebapp%2F wcs%2Fstores%2Fservlet%2FCategoryDisplay%3Fcatalog Id%3D10151%26amp%3BstoreId%3D10151%26amp%3Bcategor yId%3D10002%26amp%3BlangId%3D-1%26amp%3Bcg1%3D14087%26amp%3Bcg2%3D%26amp%3Bcg3%3 D%26amp%3Bcg4%3D%26amp%3Bcg5%3D%26pageId%3D1%26pag eCt%3D15%26sortId%3D1%26sortOr%3D1

So 6 cans of wheat at the weight of 5.8 lbs each is around 35 pounds of wheat (plus the cans and box) for $12.65 if you pick it up from the church cannery.

Please tell me if this is correct but I believe that it is almost exactly the same price as if you canned it yourself.

12.65 - .57 for the box divided by 6 is $2.01 per can, a penny less than if you canned it yourself.

So if you want to save yourself the effort just buy the cases.

Cool...

Anybody think that the church is trying to make it as easy as possible to get your year supply. There won't be many with good excuses when all you have to do is walk in the cannery to get your boxes or have it sent to you.

If you have it sent to you it will cost you $30 for 50 lbs of wheat in containers. This is still below market when you compare it to the places that send wheat through the mail $54 (including shipping) for honeyville grains. Macey's is now $34 retail for 45 lbs of wheat in container if you pick it up yourself.

Would you say the brethren want to make it easy for us? How blessed we are! Do you think people will be under condemnation if they don't get their food storage IF they can afford it and all they have to do is have it sent to their homes? Don't know. But I wouldn't want to be them when TpoopHTF.

Again if my math is off, please correct me.

[prairiemom]

But does that include the cost of shipping? For those who live close to an HSC, you can pick it up, but for those that live in the rest of the country, this is very expensive.

[Charsee]

I think it does. If you click on this...
http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10151&productId=11151&langId=-1&cg1=14087&cg2=10002&cg3=&cg4=&cg5=&sortId=1&sortOr=1&retURLtext=Back%20to%20'Home%20Storage'&retURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ldscatalog.com%2Fwebapp%2F wcs%2Fstores%2Fservlet%2FCategoryDisplay%3Fcatalog Id%3D10151%26amp%3BstoreId%3D10151%26amp%3Bcategor yId%3D10002%26amp%3BlangId%3D-1%26amp%3Bcg1%3D14087%26amp%3Bcg2%3D%26amp%3Bcg3%3 D%26amp%3Bcg4%3D%26amp%3Bcg5%3D%26pageId%3D1%26pag eCt%3D15%26sortId%3D1%26sortOr%3D1

Available for purchase at Church home storage centers for $12.65 USD. (This could also mean can it yourself but isn't how I took it from the site.) Which I would guess the $21.00 is the price including shipping, but then again, it may not.

I don't need to have it sent to me so I won't be trying that method. If the $21 does not include shipping or the payment method is different than a credit card, please post here.

[Charsee]

I believe 11 boxes would be a year supply for one person.

(6 cans x 5 lbs) x 9 cases = 300 lbs. grains (for rice or wheat not oatmeal)

2 Cases pinto beans (5 lbs per can) = 60 lbs.

Rice is more expensive
You will need a little more than twice as many cans of oatmeal because it only weighs about 2.6 lbs.
Of course you have more variety in food stuff if you live close to a cannery or can some of your year supply yourself

http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs...&cg3=&cg4=&cg5 (http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10151&categoryId=10002&langId=-1&cg1=14087&cg2=&cg3=&cg4=&cg5)

However, rice and oatmeal are foods that people already know how to use.

Again, if you do not live close to a cannery you can check out other sources of food stuff and can it using the mylar bag method (the church is providing the small bags, perhaps your stake could buy the sealer or you might find one on e-bay or you could use an iron) or if you have a cool dry space (less than 70 degrees) several other methods for storing grains can be discussed. You can put the small mylar bags in large trash cans or ....

I have been told that the reason they are so behind on getting bulk wheat out is because they have been so busy getting these cases ready. The cans may not weigh as much as if you did it yourself because they are packaged by machine.

[prairiemom]

Yeah, each can has 5.8 lbs wheat, so six cans is a bit more than 35 lbs. That works out to 60?/lb, about 25-3?/lb more than local prices. IOW, almost double. Without the shipping it's competively priced, but the shipping increases the cost by nearly 70%. I'm not criticizing the church for this cost, they are doing a great job of keeping the cost low. But it just shows that we need to tap into local sources whenever we can. (Last fall our local wheat price was 15?/lb, the year before that 6?/lb but so many people in our stake insisted on making a 1000 mi round trip to the Minneapolis HSC this spring for wheat. )

[Charsee]

Prairie mom, you are so fortunate to live in the midwest where most wheat is stored and much is grown. There is some feed quality wheat at lower prices but generally grain prices have doubled and tripled in Utah in the last few months. Wheat generally is sold for $22-30 for 50 lbs in bulk here. The church still provides wheat for about $8-12 for 50 lbs if you can get it in bulk. People are buying pallets full of wheat at a time here and many people have been unable to find it and have bought theres at very expensive stores.

You do have to remember that it takes $5.37 to pay for the cans, lids, oxygen absorbers and box for each case. I don't know how much it would cost to send about a 40 lb. box in the mail, but I would guess it isn't cheap...

But as you say local sources are usually best. But there are people out there panicking and buying from Honeyville because they live too far out in the boonies to be able to go to a cannery, or other population area...I posted this for them.

Do you have advice for those looking for local sources who live far away from major population centers? Where would you go, what kind of business would you look to for grains/beans/dried milk, etc? I recently read from someone that wanted to order from Walton Feed but that to send the order to her it would cost more than the cost of the food in shipping. I am sure she would be delighted to find a local source...any suggestions?

Whether this is a good deal or not depends on whether the $21 includes the price of shipping or not and I have been unable to decide that just from the ad.

[katcan]

I went through the process to see what the shipping would be and this is what is said. So, no sales tax if shipped in the US, Canada, or Carribean...that is great news for many people! Go, red wheat!


Sales Tax: Sales tax will be added on orders shipped to the following states: AL, CA, CO, CT, DC, GA, HI, ID, KS, KY, LA, MA, ME, MI, MS, NC, ND, NE, OH, PA, RI, SD, TN, TX, VA, WA, WI, WV, WY. Goods and Services Tax (GST) is charged on orders sent to Canada. The recipient will also be responsible for any applicable HST or PST.

** Shipping: Shipping is not charged on orders sent to the United States, Canada, or the Caribbean. Rates to all other destinations are determined by our International Shipping Table.

*** Other: The recipient is responsible for paying any other charges such as value-added tax (VAT), customs, duties, etc. on orders shipped outside the United States.

Note: If you have an e-mail address saved on file, you will be sent a final order confirmation with your total.

[bokbadok]

Has anyone actually gone to a HSC to pick up a case of wheat? Or ordered a case of wheat online and received it? A friend of mine called her local HSC (Boise) and was told that the sacks of wheat don't stick around to get canned, because people buy them up so fast.

[Charsee]

This looks like a good mix too if you don't want to hassle whole cases of things at one time... If you pick them up at the cannery they are $19.00.

http://www.ldscatalog.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10151&storeId=10151&productId=10151&langId=-1&cg1=14087&cg2=10002&cg3=&cg4=&cg5=&sortId=1&sortOr=1&retURLtext=Back%20to%20'Home%20Storage'&retURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ldscatalog.com%2Fwebapp%2F wcs%2Fstores%2Fservlet%2FCategoryDisplay%3Fcatalog Id%3D10151%26amp%3BstoreId%3D10151%26amp%3Bcategor yId%3D10002%26amp%3BlangId%3D-1%26amp%3Bcg1%3D14087%26amp%3Bcg2%3D%26amp%3Bcg3%3 D%26amp%3Bcg4%3D%26amp%3Bcg5%3D%26pageId%3D1%26pag eCt%3D15%26sortId%3D1%26sortOr%3D1

Also, I just learned that the wheat cans hold 5.5 lbs instead of 5.8 lbs.

[prairiemom]

Just about every state west of the Ohio grows wheat. Farmers will be much happier to sell locally and not have to pay transportation, storage, marketing, etc. Your local Extension Service can put you in touch with who the grain dealers or producers are in your state. Call around, be persistent and you can find a local source. You will not only be helping your local economy but you will pay less, sometimes a LOT less than what you'd pay through the church or Walton-type sources.

The same is true of most other commodities--dry beans, oats, corn, etc. Local is cheaper, fresher and helps your local economy. Ask your local ag groups, Extension, USDA office or land grant university.

See, I wouldn't store wheat in cans either. Again, cans hold little more than 5 lbs wheat. That's not even a batch of bread. Unless you are single or a couple with no children I just think that is such an impractical way to store wheat. I'd store it in 5 gal buckets. We get our buckets from bakeries, fast food stores, etc for $1 or sometimes free. A new lid costs $2. So you can store about 40 lbs for a $2-3 investment AND the bucket is reusable.